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Post by sanjuro62pt1 on Nov 18, 2006 21:53:40 GMT -5
Okay, I like your setup just the way you have it. The only thing I plan on doing differently is just running the carburetor vacuum piston hose to the nipple, and just putting a separate filter for the PCV solenoid valve (which I'm already doing).
So, what is the diameter of the snorkel at the air filter attachment point? I'm trying to figure out which filter K&N makes that would work.
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Post by I Heard A Rukus on Nov 19, 2006 1:09:07 GMT -5
Get a 1.5" one and it'll fit perfect. Should I order the metal and get started on another one for you? Also, the brass fitting was an afterthought but I kinda like it. Send me some specs....
KP
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Post by sanjuro62pt1 on Nov 19, 2006 2:05:42 GMT -5
Keith, go ahead an order the metal for me and make it just like yours. You can leave out the brass fitting though. Send me a price, and I'll PayPal you the funds.
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Post by Blackruk on Nov 19, 2006 10:29:26 GMT -5
What would you charge for a completed intake?
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Post by I Heard A Rukus on Nov 19, 2006 14:10:05 GMT -5
For a complete one with all the fitings, painted, with hoses, clamps, an air filter, and the PIAR plug fitting it's $80 + shipping. For just the coupler and the intake tube, fittings, etc minus filter you'd be looking at $50 and you'd have to buy your own filter or re-used one from somewhere. The 45mm Daytona fits ok not great the 35mm should fit better, the best thing would be a breather like DD has, I can add that to one for $20.
So basically it's $50 for the intake and another $30 if you want a Daytona or $20 if you want a chrome straight breather filter. And I need to know if you want gloss black or flat black.
Keep in mind that these are mainly for the '06 so you might have to move some stuff around/cap some stuff off on an '03.
KP
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Post by chanito on Nov 19, 2006 21:49:58 GMT -5
 Great looking intake, you should get the K&N filter from a go kart internet store like apskarting.com or aapco.com, also as a green loving person i hate that you are dumping your blow-by gases to the atmosphere, you should do as DD recomend add an extra nipple for the fresh air for the carb and the PCV closer the air filter and use the one you have for the returning blow-by gases, and maybe move it closer to the carb, that intake is wonderful, also i am against adding a nipple for the pair sytem as the reed valve can leak and those hot exhaust are not a good idea if they go back into the intake,  yopu just got me out of the intake making business 
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Post by I Heard A Rukus on Nov 19, 2006 22:12:06 GMT -5
Great looking intake, you should get the K&N filter from a go kart internet store like apskarting.com or aapco.com, also as a green loving person i hate that you are dumping your blow-by gases to the atmosphere, you should do as DD recomend add an extra nipple for the fresh air for the carb and the PCV closer the air filter and use the one you have for the returning blow-by gases, and maybe move it closer to the carb, that intake is wonderful, also i am against adding a nipple for the pair sytem as the reed valve can leak and those hot exhaust are not a good idea if they go back into the intake, yopu just got me out of the intake making business I already added another nipple for the PCV return gasses, just need to take pictures. I think the PAIR system is useless, mine is plugged for good. And I'm not going to put you out of business, just a little friendly competition  Feel free to buy me off  KP |
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Post by chanito on Nov 20, 2006 6:56:29 GMT -5
I already added another nipple for the PCV return gasses, just need to take pictures. I think the PAIR system is useless, mine is plugged for good. KP I would keep the PAIR system, it allows your muffler to be WAY cooler inside, so it last a lot longer, taking the pair system will keep your multichambered stock muffler way too hot and it will deteriorate faster, do it on an open muffler like the Yoshi and it will deteriorate even faster |
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Post by Blackruk on Nov 20, 2006 18:39:41 GMT -5
Would the BSS pod filter fit on the end?
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Post by I Heard A Rukus on Nov 20, 2006 19:11:51 GMT -5
Would the BSS pod filter fit on the end? Not really sure, you should measure it, my intake is 1.5" in dia. Basically if it'll fit over the stock tube it should fit over my intake. KP |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Nov 21, 2006 12:53:50 GMT -5
Would the BSS pod filter fit on the end? Yeah it should...the Pod filter fits on a 35mm hose so as long as IHAR's intake is somewhere in the 32-38mm range it should work good. However, the KN filter RC-0790 is a nicer filter and cheaper and you don't need the nipple on the Pod filter since you have one on the intake. The only advantage of the Pod is that it comes with that small filter too. My pod fell apart.... |
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Post by I Heard A Rukus on Nov 21, 2006 15:30:30 GMT -5
Yeah didn't you lose yours on the road? Not cool! My intake is a constant dia of 1.5" or 38.1mm. The 45mm filter works but looks a little squished and the 35mm one should stretch over to fit but might be a bit tight. Intake is finished, I'll try to take a picture when I get home of the 1st completed 'kit' which is going on my bike and San is getting #2. Update later tonight KP |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Nov 21, 2006 16:27:01 GMT -5
Yeah didn't you lose yours on the road? Yeah, the filter element in glued into sort of a metal ring and then that metal ring has a groove that fits into the rubber bit that clamps on. It's a bit of a sloppy design because there's 2 spots where if it gets disconnected then you lose your filter. With mine, the glue holding the filter into the metal ring gave and the filter fell out somewhere when I was driving. If you're gonna use the stock intake hose then the pod filter is nice cuz it's got the nipple and it's got the small filter but the overall quality is mediocre and it's expensive for what you get. For use with your intake IHAR, the KN seems like a much better option because it looks much nicer and seems higher quality for quite a bit less $$$. Since yours comes with a nipple or two already there doesn't seem to be an advantage to the Pod filter other than the small fitler which comes with it. |
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Post by I Heard A Rukus on Nov 21, 2006 23:51:56 GMT -5
Back to the crappy cell phone camera, the woman took hers back...   I'll try to get the real camera tomorrow... KP |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Nov 22, 2006 9:39:47 GMT -5
Nice work! That looks like an awesome setup with that additional nipple...my only questions is does the carb breather hose get messed up when your swingarm moves up and down since you've got it looped through the frame? It's probably okay...I had something similar for a while...I just wanted to make sure. I hate to continue to offer suggestions because it probably sounds like I don't like it but I really do, it's just that it's so good I want it to be the best it can be....so here's one more suggestion, why don't you shorten the whole thing up by about 4 inches so that the filter doesn't cover the rear shock and that would enable you to change the angle of the bracket so that it goes pretty much straight up instead of angling way over which I think would be a cleaner overall look. I realize longer = smoother flow but a bit shorter would look better IMHO and likely wouldn't flow significantly different.
Anyways, awesome work...the nipple are great...it's cool that your part is so 'plug and play' for the hoses....maybe one more nipple for the PAIR valve in between the two existing ones would be good if you plan to sell lots so people have the option of continuing to use the PAIR system.
As an abstract idea...if you really wanna make a 'mad max' intake you could consider making it 'Y' shaped so that there's a filter on each side of the rear wheel which then join together and flow into the carb...of course that's overkill considering our carb size, port size and valves are likely tighter bottlenecks but it's something that could be fun to try.
Nice work ;D
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Post by I Heard A Rukus on Nov 22, 2006 10:26:20 GMT -5
I'm not too happy with the length, the next batch will be a bit shorter. Another nipple for the pair would be cool but then it's starting to get a bit clutered. I am running a filter on the pair now just to see if it matters.
I was dreaming last night and thought about a straight up snorkle with a flat round filter that mounted right below the seat sort of 350 Chevy style...maybe someday...
KP
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Post by Dandy Dan on Nov 22, 2006 16:15:45 GMT -5
If you made the nipple for the PAIR more on the side on even kinda underneath it would look less cluttered. Also, judging from the pics you're okay but make sure that your intake tube slopes towards the filter so if it gets wet the water isn't gonna run down into your carb.
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Post by chanito on Nov 22, 2006 20:23:23 GMT -5
Great looking intake, congrats 
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Post by I Heard A Rukus on Dec 16, 2006 1:55:59 GMT -5
Here are some better pictures of the intake with the new 2-stage Uni filter, and my new stem/bars...    KP |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Dec 16, 2006 9:21:08 GMT -5
Nice pics...I've heard the foam filters don't flow as well as the paper element (ie. KN) style ones but that could be wrong. Regardless, the red sure looks nice.
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