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Ruckster
'05 Ruckus, '97 Polaris 400L 4X4
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Post by ZoomZoom on May 10, 2006 8:01:37 GMT -5
So you don't think we need to do the cdi if we do a gear change? That would be good as I don't wish to spend more than I have to.
The only other thing that bugs me are the crappy front drum brakes, wish Honda would have gone disc there at least.
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Post by Dandy Dan on May 10, 2006 8:21:20 GMT -5
It's either the CDI or the metro gears because if you do the metro gears you won't be revving high enough to need the CDI. It's your choice whether you'd rather rev the balls out of your engine via a CDI or just gear it taller. Personally, I'm going metro gears because it's not nearly as hard on your engine as crusing at 10,000rpm is.
You could just swap the piston in and rejet and you'd be faster but you wouldn't be getting all the benefit. Ideally, you'd get the piston, the cam (to help with the increased flow needs), an aftermarket pipe (because the stocker will be restrictive with this much flow), rejet, and then gearing mods to help you control the extra power which could be a simple as metro gears but an aftermarket variator is a good idea too.
Chanito: Awesome work dude;D Those pistons look amazing...I'm so stoked.
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Post by Dandy Dan on May 10, 2006 11:56:40 GMT -5
My engine plan is:
Big Bore Piston
H.O. cam
Yosh Carbon Fibre Exhaust
Shoot Shiny H.O. Ignition Coil
Daytona Power Spark Exciter
Daytona Power Advance filter
This is pretty much done except for the piston and the Daytona filter (I've got a Kijima one right now)
The result should be substantially more power which I'm gonna channel through a Polini variator, Daytona drive belt, Malossi compression spring and Metro final drive gears which will give me a 8850rpm redline which I should hit at about 52mph. I'm confident I'll be able to get there easily in tuck and probably a sitting up real world speed of 45-47mph. I'm so excited...
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Post by Dandy Dan on May 10, 2006 12:06:46 GMT -5
Are the new pistons this big?  |
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Post by chanito on May 10, 2006 18:48:55 GMT -5
 Thanks guys for your patience, i talked to the gasket people, the head gaskets will be stamped coated steel as the factory ones are, but with a bigger bore obviously, so they should last as long as the factory ones, the other option was copper, but they last a lot less, so i vote against them. i have talked to some people about the exhaust and there is an easy mod we can do to the stock unit, so it will outflow the Yoshi pipe, sadly it will require some welding to replace the tip with a bigger diameter pipe, it will require to cut the tip with a one inch hole-saw, drill three 1/8" holes into the middle chamber, and weld a 1" tip pipe, i will post a how to along with a mild flow cleaning on the head, also i fabricated a valve spring compressor and will also post a how-to on it and maybe sell some of them for the "i do not want to make one" crowd 
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'05 Ruckus, '97 Polaris 400L 4X4
Posts: 251
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Post by ZoomZoom on May 10, 2006 22:53:00 GMT -5
My engine plan is: Big Bore Piston H.O. cam Yosh Carbon Fibre Exhaust Shoot Shiny H.O. Ignition Coil Daytona Power Spark Exciter Daytona Power Advance filter This is pretty much done except for the piston and the Daytona filter (I've got a Kijima one right now) The result should be substantially more power which I'm gonna channel through a Polini variator, Daytona drive belt, Malossi compression spring and Metro final drive gears which will give me a 8850rpm redline which I should hit at about 52mph. I'm confident I'll be able to get there easily in tuck and probably a sitting up real world speed of 45-47mph. I'm so excited... I really don't see how a so call spark exciter can really do anything...please elaborate as I just see this as a waste of money. |
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Post by rucktune on May 10, 2006 23:27:42 GMT -5
Way back deep in these files someplace there was a discussion on the possibility of sending to Chanito an entire engine, which he would then return bored, etc ... might that be an option sometime??
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Post by chanito on May 11, 2006 6:34:11 GMT -5
 Well i do not know if that is a posibility, because we have to figure the shipping method, but by UPS is about 50-60 one way to send the motor and rear end, it might be cheaper just to sent the motor, so i will try to figure out this before commiting to it, and if this thing with the big pistons becomes a hit, then i will make that an option, but if not it might be too expensive to do
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Post by Dandy Dan on May 11, 2006 8:16:58 GMT -5
My engine plan is: Big Bore Piston H.O. cam Yosh Carbon Fibre Exhaust Shoot Shiny H.O. Ignition Coil Daytona Power Spark Exciter Daytona Power Advance filter This is pretty much done except for the piston and the Daytona filter (I've got a Kijima one right now) The result should be substantially more power which I'm gonna channel through a Polini variator, Daytona drive belt, Malossi compression spring and Metro final drive gears which will give me a 8850rpm redline which I should hit at about 52mph. I'm confident I'll be able to get there easily in tuck and probably a sitting up real world speed of 45-47mph. I'm so excited... I really don't see how a so call spark exciter can really do anything...please elaborate as I just see this as a waste of money. Yeah the spark exciter doesn't do much. It grounds your ignition coil wire and it's kinda cool but yeah I didn't really notice anything....I just listed it along with the Shoot Shiny coil because I already have them...the only thing they might do is make your ruckus a little more forgiving if the mix is a bit off because the hotter spark might ignite a poor mix better but that's just a theory. Unless you're obsessed with having every aftermarket part it is a waste of money. |
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Post by Dandy Dan on May 11, 2006 8:19:08 GMT -5
Thanks guys for your patience, i talked to the gasket people, the head gaskets will be stamped coated steel as the factory ones are, but with a bigger bore obviously, so they should last as long as the factory ones....also i fabricated a valve spring compressor and will also post a how-to on it and maybe sell some of them for the "i do not want to make one" crowd So what's the ETA on the gaskets? In the next week or two? Also, that spring compresser how to sounds great....the stock springs aren't super hard to I was able to do mine by hand but it sure was annoying (and painful when your skin gets pinched between the valve and the valve seat.) |
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Post by chanito on May 11, 2006 18:29:59 GMT -5
 No ETA on the gaskets yet I will do the how-to on the valve spring tool this weekend
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Post by chanito on May 12, 2006 18:44:02 GMT -5
 I am having such a hard time with the gasket set, i might just have to bite the bullet and buy the gasket set from Honda and only add the custom head gasket, and everyone will be stuck with an extra stock head gasket, i will know for sure next week and then i will make a decision and let you guys know
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Post by Dandy Dan on May 15, 2006 8:28:43 GMT -5
Hey Chanito, what if we do this big bore piston install and then later for whatever reason we need to remove our head? Like if we need new valves or something down the road. Are we screwed for a headgasket? Or can we reuse the old one? or mod a stock one?
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Post by chanito on May 15, 2006 18:11:13 GMT -5
The gaskets will be here the second week of June, so then the pistons will be for sale, finally. The headgaskets are made by Cometic and they are making me a lot of them ( they would not make them in smaller numbers, no matter how much i cry ) so in case you just need the headgasket i can sell you a shiny new one, as i will have a lot of them in stock And supossely they can be reused as they are steel stamped and coated, but i would replace it anytime i take a head out of an engine
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'05 Ruckus, '97 Polaris 400L 4X4
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Post by ZoomZoom on May 15, 2006 19:37:45 GMT -5
June sounds good to me. This is so exciting.  |
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Post by timberwolfmadcat on May 15, 2006 20:37:13 GMT -5
The gaskets will be here the second week of June, so then the pistons will be for sale, finally. The headgaskets are made by Cometic and they are making me a lot of them ( they would not make them in smaller numbers, no matter how much i cry ) so in case you just need the headgasket i can sell you a shiny new one, as i will have a lot of them in stock And supossely they can be reused as they are steel stamped and coated, but i would replace it anytime i take a head out of an engine whereabouts in florida are you Im heading there for vacation right around that time it would be wicked just to stop by and pick em up |
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on May 15, 2006 21:18:38 GMT -5
Miami's like at the tip of the penninsula.
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Post by Dandy Dan on May 16, 2006 8:20:18 GMT -5
Sounds good! I could use the time to save the money.
Once this run sells out are you gonna do another run or is that it because you've got your piston? I think it'd be kinda cool if you only ever did one run.
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Post by chanito on May 16, 2006 19:34:36 GMT -5
I would love to sell as many as i can so i can make some money in all this crazy bussines i got myself into, but i doubt it will be more demand, so more than likely these will be it
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Post by timberwolfmadcat on May 16, 2006 20:03:04 GMT -5
Oh, duh look at the avatar stupid timber  . Is that anywhere near orlando |
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