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Post by nothead on Sept 23, 2012 15:59:36 GMT -5
Ruckin: what mods do you have? The logic behind this thread has to do with stock engines. I average 95mpg on 87 octane.
Now in my Jetta I use the 93 fuel because it calls for it from the manufacturer. I've checked my mileage on the lower octane fuels and I get less mileage with them. The car is also stock. Stock vehicle, stick to the maker's recomendation on fuel.
To anyone interested in the performance of your vehicle: keep track of EVERYTHING. If you always track your fuel mileage, you'll know to look for a problem when it drops. You'll also know how mods effect your ride. Changed your oil and used a different brand or weight? You'll know within a few tanks how it is affecting your mileage. Document what you did, at what mileage and date. Its always a good idea.
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Post by hondaman9419 on May 18, 2013 10:27:30 GMT -5
i have a stock 09 Honda Ruckus and run 89 and i think the bike runs better with 89 than the standard 87 please note that ive tried for a while 93 and i noticed i bit of misfire and sluggishness when using a higher octane than 89
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Post by chanito on May 19, 2013 18:00:21 GMT -5
All this have changed since they now add alcohol to the gas at the pumps
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Post by skuuter on May 20, 2013 12:00:29 GMT -5
All this have changed since they now add alcohol to the gas at the pumps Yep.....for sure..... ;D
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Post by skuuter on Jul 12, 2013 2:17:14 GMT -5
Since I'm really prone to trading/selling/buying Scooters at an alarming rate , this is what I have personally noticed.....Everything 2011 or newer seems to be much better equipped/tuned to use the Ethanol Fuels than the 2010 back Models. 2010 and down Models I've owned would gradually trail off in power and mileage, hence my switch back and forth between Premium and Regular as this occurred. The 2011 and newer Models seem to remain consistent in both Power and Miles per Gallon. I'm still a firm believer in running a tankful of Premium through my Scooters every so often (roughly 4th or 5th Tank fill-up) though, just for the extra carbon cleaning additives in them.....
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orval
n00b Ruckster
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Post by orval on Mar 30, 2014 8:32:21 GMT -5
A Ruckus owner on Marco Island told me the ethanol in gas is gumming up his carburetor and is a problem. Some folks say to add some Lucus gas additive or other brands to the gas to counteract the ethanol which attracts water in the tank. Plus always use higher octane gas in small engines and keep fresh gas in the tank!(Preceding is according to the mentioned Marco Ruckster.)
Orval.
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Post by skuuter on Apr 23, 2014 10:15:17 GMT -5
A Ruckus owner on Marco Island told me the ethanol in gas is gumming up his carburetor and is a problem. Some folks say to add some Lucus gas additive or other brands to the gas to counteract the ethanol which attracts water in the tank. Plus always use higher octane gas in small engines and keep fresh gas in the tank!(Preceding is according to the mentioned Marco Ruckster.) Orval. It really doesn't have time to attract water if it's being ran frequently.....the main issue with ethanol is when it sits in fuel tanks, float bowls, and fuel lines........ "RIDE IT".....
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Post by Geoff on Aug 1, 2014 22:08:51 GMT -5
I bought a 2013 ruckus and have only run non-ethanol in it since day one. ( I also have a 87 Harley that only drinks that.)It has had a top speed of 42-43MPH until last week when I added a Pollini performance variator, Dr. Pulley 6 gram weights, Posh Cdi, Kevlar belt, and blue clutch springs. Now it's up to 45-50?MPH. It's hard to tell since I have the stock speedo, but will get over 50MPH downhill. Over 3030 mile on her now. Anything vehicle before 2001, I believe, is not built for the new ethanol. I know fuels with this additive produce less power and I'm willing to pay a little more since she gets over 100MPG.
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Post by jrgayle on Dec 16, 2014 16:12:15 GMT -5
What about those gas additives?
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Post by apetit on Sept 27, 2018 7:44:15 GMT -5
Just in case anyone stumbles across this thread and doesn't care to take the time to look through the owners manual. See page 82 of tinyurl.com/y8unx5pg"Your engine is designed to use any gasoline that has a pump octane number of 86 or higher. Gasoline pumps at service stations normally display the pump octane number. For information on the use of oxygenated fuels, see page 182." Best
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Post by PDXRuck on Nov 6, 2018 12:46:54 GMT -5
I have a very new '18 Ruckus with about 150 miles on it. Just this morning I noticed some pretty bad hesitation issues on my way to work. I had to really feather the throttle to get it to accelerate in stop and go traffic. Not sure what is going on, but here's what I know:
- Last week a filled up the tank with premium, and have probably run the scooter for about 10 miles since on short trips. - It's relatively cold out this morning.
I've read that using higher octane fuel results in poorer performance for most, given the low compression of the engine. Since my bike is so now it seems unlikely that it's due to old gunk becoming dislodged and plugging a jet.
Thoughts?
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Post by JonKingPhish on May 30, 2019 12:19:19 GMT -5
USE 87 not any higher, the fuel does not burn as hot, you will go slower, and if you donot have a tach, you cant really know if there is a diffrents, I use to use 91 all the time, intel I found out what OCTAIN is actually for, its used for race cars to keep cooler because the added OCTAIN does not burn as hot, you feel somether cause your going slower.............but this is only for a stock honda ruckus and if you switch gas you wont useally feel a diffrence intell the gas is all burnt out.. About the battery thing, you can get a tricle charge on it, and it will probly work, this is off topic, but I have a solar panel on the back of my ruckus to keep it charge, for my alarm and electrick starter. I have never replaced the batery, and I used the electric start yesturday, But also remember I live in Hawaii, there is sun ALOT so the bike charges pretty well, proble would not work as well in overcast weather so keep that in mind, But im telling 87 is the way to go, better for the ruckus. And as far as ethonal I live in hawaii and the only area you can get non ethanol is at the boat harber, and pay a "edit profanity" load for it. I use chev,shel, and some local places with ethonal, and It seems to run alright, but I have heard of people filling up gas cans and comeing back, but also very expensive, and I dont have a truck or car, to do so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,chris ;D
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Post by JonKingPhish on May 30, 2019 12:21:35 GMT -5
It actually doesn’t matter. Because the ruckus tank is so small, you are getting whatever gas the last person chose. So just get regular.
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Post by H on Mar 27, 2022 10:53:37 GMT -5
A Ruckus owner on Marco Island told me the ethanol in gas is gumming up his carburetor and is a problem. Some folks say to add some Lucus gas additive or other brands to the gas to counteract the ethanol which attracts water in the tank. Plus always use higher octane gas in small engines and keep fresh gas in the tank!(Preceding is according to the mentioned Marco Ruckster.) Orval. This is the exact problem I have. Have been using regular gas in the Ruck for years. Ruckus sits through the frigid Canadian winter. Carb gums up. Clean carb/jets and it runs great. If it sits, it is rinse and repeat... Specifically the tiny holes in the pilot jet. This gas has the highest ethanol content. Strongly suspect it is the ethanol which is breaking down and clogging carb jet, as well as globbing up the in bottom of the fuel tank. Percent of ethanol content has been increasing over the years. The Ruckus burns so little gas that it sits in the tank/lines/carb for extended time breaking down and gumming up small orifices such as pilot jet. I have always used fuel stabilizers. Ethanol is a liquid alcohol made of oxygen, hydrogen and carbon and is obtained from the fermentation of sugar or converted starch contained in grains and other agricultural or agri-forest feedstocks. In Canada, ethanol is presently made principally from corn and wheat. What Canadian gas has no ethanol? According to Dan McTeague, a noted petroleum analyst, Shell and Esso 91 are both ethanol free. All other grades from the companies have some ethanol content, but the mid-grade blend is pure gas, which means it not only corrodes less than ethanol blends, but is less likely to deteriorate when stored. Ethanol-blended fuels left untreated can start “phasing.” Phase separation is when ethanol in the fuel absorbs too much water and separates from gasoline by dropping to the bottom of the tank since the ethanol and water mixture that results from phase separation is heavier than gasoline.They are putting more and more ethanol in the fuel at the pumps. Seems fine in cars, but in the Ruckus with tiny carb jet holes it is has imo become a problem. My experience is after cleaning carb/jets repeatedly, I drained and rinsed tank removing flecks of crud, AND switched to 91 octane with the lower etahanol content. Only time will tellbut knock on wood but it is running/starting better than when burning higher ethanol content fuels.
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Post by Alandt on Aug 2, 2023 15:44:06 GMT -5
I run premium gas in my 2015 Honda Ruckus, beause I think premium is a cleaner gas; never had a problem and didn't notice a difference in performance. I have 16,500 miles on it after 8 years of service. I LOVE MY RUCKUS
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Post by Alandt on Aug 2, 2023 15:44:42 GMT -5
I run premium gas in my 2015 Honda Ruckus, beause I think premium is a cleaner gas; never had a problem and didn't notice a difference in performance. I have 16,500 miles on it after 8 years of service. I LOVE MY RUCKUS
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