obe won i need your help custom filter instalers

[tygerfifteen]

okay guys, chanito, scribble, etc.

I got an aftermarket scooter filter from my gf when she visited the phillipines (unexpected) so instead of leaving it to lay here and collect dust , I was thinking of trying to install it(I am useless when it comes to mechanics)

so here is where I am, here is the filter.

couple questions

1. what tubes are necessary for the filter to work
2. which ones do I get rid of
3. how would I connect everything, what would I need to drill
4. Do I need to buy anything else?

thanks a bundle guys

and if all else fails Ima leave my scoot dismantled and get a filter kit from battlescooter.
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what do i need to keep from the stock

[Dandy Dan]

Pretty good instructions:
www.battlescooter.com/6955/22520.html

I think you need to keep pretty much everything except the PAR system which is outlined in detail in the link but I haven't done it personally.

Guess: I think you could just attach it directly to the carb and get rid of all the rest. The other hoses just go to the airbox to get clean air so if you route them somewhere where it's not too dusty you might be ok. Or you could attach some sort of a filter on the end of them. Does you new filter have any place to attach additional hoses?

[chanito]

Before starting anything, i should state something, the intake in the ruckus is a TUNED intake, that means that the carb was adjusted to meet the demands of the airflow thru the air filter box, so if you remove the air filter box YOU WILL NEED TO JET THE CARB, that said, there are two hoses you must keep, the one for the PCV (positive crankcase ventilation, just in case), wich in your picture is the middle one, the other one is the long one that goes behind the rear shock, that is the vent hose for your carburator. I disagree with Dandydan you need to get filtered air to both of them, the easy way around is to go to an autopart and buy a vacuum hose "T" (a plastic t shape vacuum hose connector) drill a hose in the 90 degree shape part of your new intake and glue the "T" to it attach those two hose and you shoul be ok, now for the third hose, you could attach it to small filter or do as i did and conect it to the PAIR valve stick some foam at the other end, and stick it to the side of the tank as it was, or just get rid of the pair system altogether and put a cap on the fitting on the head and another in the vacuum fitting on the intake track (between the carb and the engine), nice thinking Girlfriend by the way, congrats

[Dandy Dan]

Yeah, what he said!

[tygerfifteen]

okay i got the part of attaching the two hoses to the elbow (but never thought about the t hose)

but which hose is this? I don't really understand this step.
"ok, now for the third hose, you could attach it to small filter or do as i did and conect it to the PAIR valve stick some foam at the other end, and stick it to the side of the tank as it was, or just get rid of the pair system altogether and put a cap on the fitting on the head and another in the vacuum fitting on the intake track (between the carb and the engine"

is that the two hoses from the par valve? that I can just plug instead of using?

cool thanks

by the way, vote on chanito for a moderater (if he wishes)seems to me that he has consistently had helpful input on this forum

[chanito]

OK let me explain that a little further, the pair valve is a little plastic valve that allows under high vacuum fresh air to get in the exhaust to burn any remaining gas in there, this is that pesky plastic valve that makes taking the air box a little harder than it should, and this valve attaches to the air box with a little hose that is part of the air box and that third hose attaches to the air box those two connections are joined by a little filter, the reason for this is that exhaust some times can leak from the reed valve in the head, so if this pair valve gets its air from the regular air filter, when the reed valve leaks it would send exhaust gas back to the carb (exhaust gas does not have oxygen, because it was already used in the combustion) so it would create some misfiring even shut off the engine, to prevent this they use fresh air from beside the gas tank run it thru a hose to the air box then filter it in a separated chamber in the air box and then to the pair valve, so what i did, is just hook the hose to the pair valve and then put a filter on the end by the gas tank. Makes sense?
Wow! that was long, and i do not think i would be a good moderator, and my wife already is complaining that i spent too much time in front of the computer, but thank you, i am very honored by your comment

[wainair]

When I put my super cool intake I bought from BSS I think I will take the time to put the pair valve on. ANY reduction of NOX is a good thing. Here in Southern Ontario we get too many smog days and any reduction of NOX is a good reduction of NOX. I'm too young to be saying things like "I remember when the sky was blue all summer and not yellow". smog bad pair valve good!

[tygerfifteen]

thanks for te help chan,

two more questions,

1. I'm gonna keep the pair valve (with the two hoses and filter thing that was attached to the stock filter, I could hook it up to another small filter or just put a sponge? correct?

2. what do you use that is best to seal the drill holes from the t valve fitting.

thanks

[chanito]

1. Yes you are correct
2. the elbow seems to be plastic, if it is use pcv plastic glue, if it is not, use clear silicone