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Post by dbozic on Apr 9, 2008 15:56:49 GMT -5
???so i heard something about de-regulating my rukus to go faster is this possible . if so how do i do it? secondly what can i do to make it go faster without breakin the bank? its too slow for street they look so cool but why so slow!
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Post by jd on Apr 9, 2008 19:56:48 GMT -5
Unless you are on a Metro or a Zoomer, they are not restricted. You can up the redline with a cdi, but there is not point with no other mods. The cheapest go faster parts would be.. New Weights for stock variator New Variator Metro Gears. What year is it? My new 07 is doing 37 when warm (its ony about 45 here) and 33 in the am when it's 30 out. 37-40 seems to be fast enough. If you want real power (like i am wanting  ) youll be looking at a big bore. Is this your first ruckus? is it new? Mine was really slow when i first got it because the dealer put way too much oil in it. |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Apr 9, 2008 22:20:41 GMT -5
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Post by dbozic on Apr 10, 2008 8:24:59 GMT -5
yeah its my first i never test drove it so when i got it home i was like what the *&^% this thing is slow but looks cool so i will do some things to it how much are weights metro gear variator and how fast do you think it will increase? also are they easy to install ?mine goes about 35 now im looking to go like 50-60 is it possible?after calling places some mechanics told me it wasnt worth it for an engine swap and if iwanted to go faster to by a faster scooter but &(*&^ that this thing looks rad. im from chicago and it seems there is no where to just bring it in and be like "yo make this thing fast i will pick it up later"that would be sweet. thanks allot
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Post by dbozic on Apr 10, 2008 8:28:00 GMT -5
it is new 07 how do i know if there is too much oil. and do you let it warm up befor you ride it i noticed if i pull the throttle after i start it dies sometimes?
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Post by jd on Apr 10, 2008 9:28:31 GMT -5
yeah i....?mine goes about 35 now im looking to go like 50-60 is it possible?... Ha, yeah. It is possible. With a big bore, cam, cdi, variators, intake,exhaust, clutch, new tires. A couple grand in parts/labor ought to get it there. It's a scooter, it just fun to scoot around on, for in town. the speedo only does 40-45, why did you think it would go 50-60? |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Apr 10, 2008 10:08:52 GMT -5
mine goes about 35 now im looking to go like 50-60 is it possible?after calling places some mechanics told me it wasnt worth it for an engine swap and if iwanted to go faster to by a faster scooter but &(*&^ that this thing looks rad.  50-60mph with the stock engine isn't going to happen. If you spend thousands doing all the tricks in the book then you might be able to hit 50mph if you tuck down a super long straightaway but your realistic cruising speed will always be in the 40's unless you do an engine swap. If you're game to spend $1500-$2000 for an engine swap then there is a bolt in 150cc kit available that will get you to about 60mph. Regarding upgrades, new weights are cheap ($10-$30). The weights affect how fast your Ruckus upshifts....so lighter weights shift slower which gives you higher revs during acceleration. This won't add top speed but it will get you up to speed a bit quicker. The variator and Metro gears both just gear you taller which can mean a higher top speed in perfect conditions but it also means your Ruckus is going to struggle even more uphills or when it's windy out. Personally I think doing an aftermarket variator is a good idea because it only gears you a bit taller but the Metro gears are way taller and not really a good idea unless you weigh 90lbs and live on the Bonneville Salt Flats. These gears just hurt your acceleration too much and they suck when the conditions aren't ideal. You're better off adding more power rather than trying to gear the snot out of it. To check the oil, put the scooter on the center stand, let it sit for a minute if it's just been running, remove the dipstick (behind radiator), wipe dipstick clean, insert dipstick but don't screw it in, remove dipstick and inspect. If the oil level is anywhere in the hashmarks then you're fine. If it's above the hashmarks it's overfull and you need to remove a bit (either suck it out of the dipstick hole with a straw or remove the drainbolt (under the kickstarter)). If you're going to mod your Ruckus to add power then the Chanito Big bore kit is the best place to start. It will bump your engine up to 60cc from 50cc which makes a noticable difference. At the same time you'll want to do something about the intake and perhaps the cam and carb. |
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Post by dbozic on Apr 10, 2008 11:48:47 GMT -5
thats kinda disapointing i dont know what to do the street by my house it 45-50 something like that so cars are flying. now i kindas regret buying i would do an engine swap but dont know where to get it done by me . most people think im crazy when i call and ask that. is the big bore expensive and can i install myself . also how fast will 60cc go?thanks greatly apreciate the info
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Post by dbozic on Apr 10, 2008 12:04:14 GMT -5
and if i do an engine swap would i need new brakes and extention kit ect. to go with the swap ? man im kinda freakin out know cause i baught this thing and its slow im not lookin to fly but its nice to know you can if you want
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Post by ozzie84 on Apr 10, 2008 12:30:26 GMT -5
Is this your first ruckus? is it new? Mine was really slow when i first got it because the dealer put way too much oil in it. Ive heard this many times....i just got mine and im worried, they might have done it |
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Post by dbozic on Apr 10, 2008 12:55:26 GMT -5
i didnt think it can go 50-60 i just thought i can make it go that fast after seeing some of thes looking like space ships. i figured it would be resanably cheap because its a scooter.you know
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Apr 10, 2008 13:35:43 GMT -5
I ride my '04 that currently tops out at about 38 mph on 55mph roads all the time. You get used to transfer trucks passing you without crossing the double yellow.
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Post by dbozic on Apr 11, 2008 14:35:22 GMT -5
so i checked the oil and it seems way above the hash marks. does it really slow it down allet? like is it a noticable difference
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Post by varroa on Apr 12, 2008 2:53:28 GMT -5
dbozic, dude, you gots to read some books in your off time; your grammar and punctuation suxx.
yes, too much oil WILL slow down your scoot. drain just enough for it to stay within hashmarks.
now, although it's a scooter, it will not be cheap to make it go fast. in addition, the most tuned ruckus' known to mankind go 50-52 mph MAX (right, IHAR?), so that's the absolute max you can expect given the current situation with "make-it-go-fast" parts.
DandyDan: your info, although very well-informed, is a little bit outdated. a lot of people report their 2007-08 ruckuses go 43-45 mph on flat ground with no wind; so i just ASSUME that if they had BB, HO cam, and other stuff, it would not be that hard for them to break 50mph on flat ground.
but, maybe, you're right.
does anyone know of a 07-08 ruckus that used to do 45 stock, but then went BB?
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Post by sparky on Apr 14, 2008 11:16:13 GMT -5
Out of the box, stock, my '07 did ~43 MPH (if you believe the speedo) under perfect conditions meaning no wind and relatively flat road for over a mile. Most of the time, top speed is a little less than 40 on a warm day, 35 MPH on the 'brisk' 30ish degree (that's Fahrenheit BTW) mornings of the past week.
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Post by dbozic on Apr 15, 2008 10:58:39 GMT -5
varroa, dude when I'm on this "edit profanity" i type as quick as i can not worring that my 6th grade English teacher is going to give me a grade on my grammer. seeing that no one had a problem understanding what i meant i don't give a &*^# . so you can go join a English 101 forum and help people out .unfortunately i need help with the ruck not concerned with my forum grammer.
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Post by BRUNO on Apr 27, 2008 14:40:36 GMT -5
I just picked up an 08 last week. I'm 6' and 300lbs. I have hit 40mph on the flat straits and I only have 28 miles on the odometer.
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Post by chanito on Apr 27, 2008 21:07:35 GMT -5
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Post by Dandy Dan on Apr 29, 2008 15:46:58 GMT -5
DandyDan: your info, although very well-informed, is a little bit outdated. a lot of people report their 2007-08 ruckuses go 43-45 mph on flat ground with no wind; so i just ASSUME that if they had BB, HO cam, and other stuff, it would not be that hard for them to break 50mph on flat ground. I said that a Ruckus without an engine swap will always have a ' realistic cruising speed' in the 40's. I'm not talking about the speeds some 90lbs dude can hit when they tuck down a 5 mile wind free straightaway. Any 2006 or newer Ruckus redlines at 8850RPM which corresponds to a potential top speed of 42-43mph. My 2006 Ruckus hit the 8850 RPM redline at 42.3mph (Veypor verified) and the vast majority of new Ruckus owners report similar top speeds. While there have been owner reports of 45mph stock, I'd say these accounts are either a bit optimistic, conveniently rounded to the nearest 5mph or they just have a speed that is unusually off. Now keep in mind that just because a new Ruckus can hit 42-43mph when the conditions are perfect and the driver is tucking down a long straightaway, that doesn't mean the realistic cruising speed is 42-43mph because you really have to tuck (or be a lightweight) to get there and even then it takes a good 30 - 45 seconds of wide open throttle to get there which doesn't happen around town or on 90% of days when there is a bit of a wind. Anyways, the point is that while a new Ruckus can hit 42-43mph, it really cruises at more like 40 mph for all practical purposes. You can rely on cruising at 43mph. Now to get increase your realistic cruising speed to 50mph, you need to go 25% faster but keep in mind that wind resistance is exponential...so it might take 50% more power to go 25% faster which is pretty much impossible with the mods currently available. The way some Ruckus owners do it is by adding as much power as they can, and then gearing it taller (via an aftermarket variator) and then artificially decreasing their drag by tucking down a long straight. I don't know why I'm writing so much....my point is that yes some highly modified Ruckus's do hit 50mph when they are geared super tall or have a CDI and then the owner tucks them down a long straightaway but nobody is actually riding around town sitting upright while going faster than 50mph. If you could hit 50mph sitting upright, then you could hit 55mph - 60mph tucking. The fastest speed I've heard reported for a Ruckus on flats is in the low 50's. My 2006 was capable of getting to about 49mph with all the mods when I tucked it down a long straight but it still wasn't good for much more than 41-42mph when I sat upright and there was a bit of a breeze out. Mods like aftermarket variators gear you taller so you can hit high top speeds but they don't do much for your realistic cruising speed. |
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Post by varroa on Apr 30, 2008 2:27:52 GMT -5
i completely understand what you're saying, DD.
but let me share my own experience, as well.
after i bought my 2007 ruckus, it went about 42 out of the box, sitting straight up, no matter the head wind. i would always hit the rev limiter, very shortly after taking off from a traffic light.
then i shaved the variator spacer. i would then be able to hit about 44 mph, but downhill. on flats, my speed was stable 40-41 mph.
then i bought chanito's windshield, and got all the speed back, and then some. now i was constantly hitting the rev limiter at 44 mph, on flat ground, with little to now headwind.
then i sold it to install low handlebars, and lost all the speed. now, my real world cruising speed was only 40-41 mph.
that was like that until recently, when i installed K&N filter
i guess more fuel+more air does actually mean more power, as now my stable cruising speed is ~43 mph, sometimes getting to 45 mph. if there are gusts of head wind, speed occasionally drops to ~42-41 mph, but then goes back to 43 mph.
if i tuck completely, i get 46.x (awfully close to 47) mph all the time, sans when there is headwind.
so, based on my personal experience (current 43 stable not tucking, sitting straight up. and i don't even have the lowered seat, and i am 5'10", which doesn't help with wind resistance), i was expecting to be hitting at least 50 mph (which is about 14% increase), which would require 30% more power, which is realistic, if i install big bore (about 20% more?), port and polish the head, and use an iridium spark plug. if that's not going to cut it, i plan on removing the met gear, and installing CDI. then i will hit 50 mph for sure, as the engine allegedly makes more power after 9000 rpm.
and, in a tuck, i even will be able to hit 52-53 mph. hopefully.
and on a totally seperate sidenote, did you see that video on totalruckus, where a guy on an allegedly almost stock ruckus was hitting ~52-53 mph on flat, tucked?
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Good, newer ruckus seem to have more power than before, so you are lucky