hadoq
Ruckster
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Post by hadoq on Sept 6, 2005 2:04:11 GMT -5
well most I know, I learned it from my job. so basically I could tell wich part goes where, I could tell this and that big bore kit will develop more power, and basic tuning, such as carb jetting and stuff. I think I could propose to work on a minarelli on zoomer for job, but I wouldn't have the funds to do it and I'm not asking my boss to invest in my own ride. as said before, for those who want to do it, I can have ALL parts, and for any budget you have, cause we just have everything for sale where I work (one of the biggest scooter parts dealer in europe, but we don't have stuff for zoomer/ruckus very poor market here, they all ride zoomas). We also have our own line of products that are way cheaper and work just as good as other brands, sometimes even better, but for half the price.
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Post by chanito on Sept 10, 2005 22:02:41 GMT -5
Hadoq, any news on the minarelli?
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hadoq
Ruckster
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Post by hadoq on Sept 11, 2005 19:02:41 GMT -5
as said, I can get em personnaly but there are a few issues
the shipping would be the biggest one, does anyone know some way to avoid controls ? I mean that wouldn't be cool if the guy has to pay extra taxes just to pick up his engine.
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I talked to my boss about extending to north america (we already can ship to canada), and he told be that it'll be done by next year, wich means that you'll be able to get brand new minarellis and probably piaggio engines as well (piaggo offers better performances).
anyway, as said, as it is now, I can get everything needed for a nice minarelli, and probably piaggio as well, I only have to find a way to ship the stuff overseas.
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Post by Robo-Mod on Sept 11, 2005 21:01:35 GMT -5
Hadoq- Can you get a 100cc minarelli? I've been researching the piggio motors and I have talked to Abe about them. He pointed our that they are bottom-mount motor- How would you mount one? They are avilable over here in America, but I was wondering how much you could get them for.
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hadoq
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Post by hadoq on Sept 12, 2005 2:08:34 GMT -5
I'd have to look for a 100cc, I'm not sure we can get those, but it might be quite much more expensive IMO, as well as the other parts.
with a 50cc (base) one and a few mods you can easily beat 50mph if you mod it harder you can aim to 60/70mph.
but again, the thing you must know if you swap to a 2stroke / minarelli or piaggio, it won't be as reliable as the stock ruckus engine.
tho, there is a way to have performance and some reliability, is to get an iron (? is that correct ?) big bore kit. Aluminium ones have better performances but they're more expensive and brake easier. AND there is one that's almost as powerfull as an aluminium one, it's made by the company "top performance" and the model's name is "Due +" (for the little story, it's a pink kit), with a few other cool parts (exhaust/variator/carb etc...) you can easily aim to 12/13hp without braking the bank account.
the problem if you get a minarelli 100 is that you won't get as much parts and they'll be alot more expensive, and you might end up with less performance than a 50cc with all that's needed to go fast.
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Post by timberwolfmadcat on Oct 4, 2005 21:43:12 GMT -5
With the new engine regulations coming out in 06, we wont be seeing 2 strokes anymore, all mopeds have to be 4 strokes to meet emmsions standards, which means that there will be a lot more big bore engine kits for the 4 strokes coming out, good news for us
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Post by tedsmini on Oct 4, 2005 23:08:30 GMT -5
The brakes and poor suspension on the Ruck would make it a suicide ride on a freeway. After hitting about 45mph at the bottom of a long hill I clamped on both brakes and coasted right through a stop sign. The brakes are marginal so making it go faster is really silly until you address the suspension, brakes and wheelbase. I have been building hotrods all my life and when you mess with factory engineering you get a lot of unexpected results, mostly on the negative side. I have both the big and little rucks and the big one is marginal on a 60-70MPH interstate. There is no reserve of power to get you out of tight spots and the brakes at that speed just don't make it.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Oct 5, 2005 16:51:23 GMT -5
I don't agree with Ted. The stock suspension does suck but most of the weight is on the rear end so if you swap the shock to one of the BSS ones you'll have fixed that issue tremendously (not that you really use the suspension much cruising down the freeway vs. pot hole filled alleys). The brakes on my Ruckus work great. I can lock up the rear easy and I've down nose wheelies (aka Stoppies) if I really slam on the front brakes. I almost missed my road 2 weeks ago and I had the rear end off of the ground.
Perhaps you need to tighten your brakes a bit Ted or if that doesn't work maybe lightly sand your pads down a bit as they might be glazed or something.
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Post by chanito on Oct 5, 2005 18:46:05 GMT -5
Well i am kind of in the middle, the suspention is bad at best, so weight transfer in panic stops is terrible, i can do reverse wheelies (stoppies) fairlly easy, but that is not a good thing, the brakes in the ruckus are small in diameter but are thick so it actually have a good friction area but having hidrolyc would be so much sweeter, and disks should be even sweeter, there my two cents.
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Post by Robo-Mod on Oct 5, 2005 20:08:48 GMT -5
They need to be tightened as your shoes wear down. My brakes are sweet. I stop short, and skid out, then park, they are good.
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Post by tedsmini on Oct 6, 2005 1:49:25 GMT -5
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Post by chanito on Oct 6, 2005 18:23:37 GMT -5
Now that you mention it, those are my next projects
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Post by krazyjay99 on Sept 5, 2011 13:39:44 GMT -5
WOW u guys need to speek only of what you realy know first hand. I ride a 2003 ruck with an elite 150 engine. it was a nice swap with minimal mods to fit the engine but moderate wiring using the stock ruck harness and brain so as not to replace the fuel pump and electronics but incorporated the elite cdi i fabbed my own exhaust and radiator mount this is no frankenstein it is low fast and very sharp with an ncy susspension. i got my motor from a complete ch150d i bought for 250 making it an easy swap haveing everything i needed from the elite. Why did i just not run the elite instead of swaping it into my ruck? the elite was an ugly tird with poor suspension and handeling. It has to be cool and fun to ride if not make it the way it needs to be.
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Post by chanito on Sept 17, 2011 5:17:11 GMT -5
;D Good for you, now post some pics
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Post by rvenneman on May 21, 2014 21:27:15 GMT -5
Who could I find in the Portland OR area that can stroke and bore , add a variator and CDI and exhaust. PM please
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