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Post by sp1249 on Jun 9, 2014 7:37:05 GMT -5
Occasionally when I come to a stop, the rear brake doesn't want to release. I have to roll the bike backwards for a bit and then it will release. I have removed the back wheel and inspected the shoes and drum, but everthing seems normal. It doesn't do it all the time, only occasionally. Can anybody shed some light on this for me? Thanks
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Post by Blackbeard1718 on Jun 9, 2014 14:27:00 GMT -5
Hiya SP1249! Wondering if it might be a Bent/Stuck Brake Cable or Brake Lever/Brake Lever Cable. Check with the Big Ruckus Rider's at this Link, for additional help: totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=3Cheers! BB |
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Post by sp1249 on Jun 9, 2014 18:39:46 GMT -5
Thanks Blackbeard, for your help. I followed your link and seen a reply that will get me going in the right direction. The world needs more people like Blackbeard!
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Post by Blackbeard1718 on Jun 10, 2014 7:49:16 GMT -5
I posted your Question over at Total Ruckus. Here are a couple of Responses for you from BRed:
1. QUOTE: "The rear brakes are single leading edge (one cam actuator) operated shoes......
they need to be adjusted frequently, like every 3000-5000 miles under normal use.
If the shoes' friction pads are worn down and the rear linkage is under-adjusted, the cam can rotate until the shoe is resting on the high side.....
at this point the brakes are stuck until something moves enough for the actuator cam to pop back into it's "at rest" position.
most likely cause.....the rear brake is in dire need of adjustment and bleeding.
there are many other potential causes for this and some are expensive....
adding the wrong type of brake fluid, which can damage the brake hose linings, turning them into "check valves"
corrosion on the rear brake mechanical linkages
running extremely low fluid levels letting air into the brake lines
sticky pistons in either the master or slave cylinder
... but I would start with the simplest fixes first." END QUOTE
2. QUOTE: "The BR's linked brake system often gets some bad press here and the truth is, it works great .........when adjusted properly!
The problem seems to come from riders not knowing how to adjust the rear brake.... since disc brakes are more or less self-adjusting, as long as there is enough fluid in the master cylinder, most riders overlook the need to adjust the mechanical linkage to the rear drum as the shoes wear in.
The proportioning valve, the mechanism that actually "links" the two brakes, is static.....you cannot adjust it.
It lets fluid flow to the rear first and after a certain amount of movement, opens flow to the center piston on the front caliper.
The diagram in the service manual illustrates this concept clearly.
If normal shoe wear with extended mileage is causing the rear actuator to travel too far, most braking pressure is diverted to the front.
Here's how to adjust your rear brake properly.
Start with the BR on the centerstand. I use a ziptie but you can use several loops of black electrical tape or anything else that will hold the left lever in a partially applied position. Avoid having someone just hold it, unless you use a spacer under the lever to insure they keep it in the same position, with even pressure, throughout the procedure.
With the BR rocked back on the rear tire, apply the LEFT lever until you feel heavy drag on the front tire....some effort is required to rotate the front tire.
Secure the lever at this point.
With the lever in the same position, rock the bike forward and while turning the rear tire, adjust the mechanical linkage at the rear wheel until the rear tire will NOT turn.....the shoes are in full contact with the drum now.
This insures the rear tire receives maximum possible braking force before the front tire does when the left lever is applied, which is how you want the linked system to work.
Now release the left lever and make sure both front and rear wheels turn without drag.
DONE!
Yes, the front tire has more stopping power but, the right lever transfers 100% of it's pressure to the front disc only, for those who are concerned about this. You don't want the left lever to act just like the right lever....if set up right, the left lever should send about 60% force to the rear and 40% force to the front while the right lever sends 100% force to the front.
Make this adjustment right and you'll never doubt the BR's linked brakes again.....
when adjusted properly, they WORK great!!
Just be careful you don't lock the wheels the first time you stop after you've adjusted your brakes.....
this is something you never want to do, even in a panic stop.
Rubber on asphalt has a lower coefficient of friction then does the brake shoe material to the drum and your bike is only gyroscopically stabilized, holding itself upright, when the wheels are actually turning.
Be sure to check it every 5000 miles or so and when it finally reaches a point where you no longer have adjustment on the rear linkage, it's time for new rear brake shoes." END QUOTE
Hope they help you out!
Cheers!
BB
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Post by sp1249 on Jun 12, 2014 20:49:51 GMT -5
Thanks Blackbeard! I appreciate the help.
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