shawna
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Post by shawna on May 29, 2009 11:45:40 GMT -5
I often scrap the kickstand when I corner to the left sometimes. I even have some of that yellow paint used to paint the line on kickstand.
I know I lean the little ruckus pretty good because I look at the contact patch on the tires and they are worn past the edges of the tires. I am using Michelin Boppers.
Does anyone else have this problem?
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Post by yaris on May 29, 2009 15:14:27 GMT -5
I would check if the stand looks bent or if the spring that keep it up is not broken or something, or maybe you just lean it ALOT when cornering
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Post by chanito on May 29, 2009 17:27:48 GMT -5
I often scrap the kickstand when I corner to the left sometimes. I even have some of that yellow paint used to paint the line on kickstand. I know I lean the little ruckus pretty good because I look at the contact patch on the tires and they are worn past the edges of the tires. I am using Michelin Boppers. Does anyone else have this problem?  Skuuter and Kamino were doing that a lot during the fall ride,  However i am not that brave So you are a member of a selected group ;D |
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Post by BlueRidgeRuckůs on May 30, 2009 9:47:17 GMT -5
ditto.. i have my wife watch me in corners and she says my pegs dont come close.. i was always worried about that.. i leaned my ruckus down to see how far i would have to go.. if you guys are scrapping.. you guys are leaning big time.. im with chanito.. im not that brave yet.. heh
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sparky
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Post by sparky on Jun 1, 2009 11:17:46 GMT -5
Scrapped pavement with the center stand the other day while avoiding a cager that blew a stop sign. Other than that, I'm fairly agressive in the turns and haven't had the stand scrap.
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sr50r
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Post by sr50r on Jun 5, 2009 17:05:30 GMT -5
ditto.. i have my wife watch me in corners and she says my pegs dont come close.. i was always worried about that.. i leaned my ruckus down to see how far i would have to go.. if you guys are scrapping.. you guys are leaning big time.. im with chanito.. im not that brave yet.. heh One thing to consider is that a bike with a rider on it will have a lower ground clearance than a bike alone thanks to your weight multiplied by the cornering Gs compressing the suspension, so when you stand besides the bike and lean it, the stand is a lot farther off the ground than when you're on the bike. I once scraped the center stand on my SR50 while leaning and after that, I tried to lean the bike while standing besides it and NO WAY was I that low. to touch the side stand with the suspension unloaded, I would not only have needed knee pucks, but elbow pucks too! Now that I've got a high pressure gas shock and stiffer spring in the rear, I'd probably have to lean it a lot more. |
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Post by chanito on Jun 5, 2009 19:28:21 GMT -5
I am a LOT HEAVIER than both Skuuter and Kamino, and was nowhere near to scratching the stand It does require a lot of speed and skill to do so
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shawna
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Post by shawna on Jun 5, 2009 20:08:26 GMT -5
I am a LOT HEAVIER than both Skuuter and Kamino, and was nowhere near to scratching the stand It does require a lot of speed and skill to do so Actually, I scrape the kick stand at low speed or high speed but more so at high speed... The secret is the art of counter steering... |
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sr50r
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Post by sr50r on Jun 8, 2009 21:04:40 GMT -5
Wat? That would require a significant slip angle, and I seriousely doubt you're neutral steering or drifting a ruckus, nevermind at speeds high enough that you'd be leaned that far, countersteering in a slide.  |
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Post by chanito on Jun 9, 2009 6:01:07 GMT -5
Wat? That would require a significant slip angle, and I seriousely doubt you're neutral steering or drifting a ruckus, nevermind at speeds high enough that you'd be leaned that far, countersteering in a slide. Obviously, you have never riden wih the Kaminos or Skuuter, the super low center of gravity on the ruckus makes for some scary speeds on those tigh mountain roads, these guys take corners at 30 i was scare at 15 |
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Post by yaris on Jun 9, 2009 8:17:06 GMT -5
Wat? That would require a significant slip angle, and I seriousely doubt you're neutral steering or drifting a ruckus, nevermind at speeds high enough that you'd be leaned that far, countersteering in a slide. I see you never drove your ruckus in the snow, when in snow its rather common to be sliding, counter-steering in a turn |
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jun 9, 2009 23:46:10 GMT -5
Wat? That would require a significant slip angle, and I seriousely doubt you're neutral steering or drifting a ruckus, nevermind at speeds high enough that you'd be leaned that far, countersteering in a slide. I see you never drove your ruckus in the snow, when in snow its rather common to be sliding, counter-steering in a turn I rode on ice a few times. Most memorable was driving about 5 mph, and just falling over. I miss that stuff. |
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Post by atleastbehandy on Jun 10, 2009 12:58:40 GMT -5
My PasswordJDM BMX pegs are the first thing to scrape now. Only done it once - right turn from a stop sign.  |
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sr50r
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Post by sr50r on Jun 11, 2009 20:55:20 GMT -5
Back to the point, A bike doesn't fall over ina lean because it's a delicate balance between gravity wanting to pull it down, and centrifugal force trying to flip it over the other side. If you drift a ruck on snow, it ain't gonna go that low because you can't get the speed up (would need spiked tires, but would then lack the engine power to drift it). You're going to have to counter steer it, but you're not going to rub anything. As for tarmack, yeah it's gonna rub, but it's never going to break the back wheel loose, hence no countersteer. Again... wat -_-' Sorry for being a poor sport about this, but this just has me facepalming like mad here...  |
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shawna
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Post by shawna on Jun 12, 2009 12:17:04 GMT -5
Back to the point, A bike doesn't fall over ina lean because it's a delicate balance between gravity wanting to pull it down, and centrifugal force trying to flip it over the other side. If you drift a ruck on snow, it ain't gonna go that low because you can't get the speed up (would need spiked tires, but would then lack the engine power to drift it). You're going to have to counter steer it, but you're not going to rub anything. As for tarmack, yeah it's gonna rub, but it's never going to break the back wheel loose, hence no countersteer. Again... wat -_-' Sorry for being a poor sport about this, but this just has me facepalming like mad here... When I turn left. I push forward with my left hand. When I turn right. I push forward with my right had when I want to turn sharp at low speed (30km/h) and do this for all higher speeds. I can take a pic of my front tire for you to show you how much of the front tire gets used. The color difference shows which part of the tire gets used vs not used. |
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Post by skuuter on Jun 15, 2009 9:27:02 GMT -5
Kami, and Joie scrap Their rear-mounted pegs often. I scrape my centerstand some. This is usually only on very tight/technical roads like The Dragon, and Hwy 32 out of Cosby outside Gatlinburg.
Now, that being said, I have since lowered my Ruckus some, and installed Michelin Boppers. Due to these two changes, I actually can run a corner at the same speed now with less lean. The Boppers, and lower center of gravity make the Ruckus turn quicker with less input. The lowering may be a temporary thing for "experimental purposes"......we'll see.... ;D
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Post by originaljoie on Jun 15, 2009 23:18:46 GMT -5
scraping is so last year, I've moved on to tearing the peg off. This what happens when you lean a bit too low and the washer folds through the hole. |
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jun 16, 2009 2:31:15 GMT -5
We need a bigger gun, err, washer.
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Post by skuuter on Jun 16, 2009 4:17:22 GMT -5
We need a bigger gun, err, washer. I'm gonna' mount some CBR rearward pegs on mine possibly in the future. I may fabricate a bracket to raise em' a "tick" higher. Might be a future option for Ya'....we'll see. Gonna' be "experimenting" more with my Ruckus in the coming months. See if I can get the "PIG" out........... |
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jun 16, 2009 11:55:43 GMT -5
Yeah, we could definately stand to work out a better option for those footpegs.
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