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Post by chanito on Mar 12, 2006 20:04:49 GMT -5
:)Wow! great post DD, yes the energy conserving oils have some friction modifiers, that make them more slippery than regular oils, this help the engine use less gas as friction loses are less (therefore conserving energy), most motorcycle engines have the transmission in the crankcase (sharing the oil with the engine) and use a multi disk clutch set up (like on automatic transmissions), using this energy saving oil will allow the disks to slip and overheat so they are a no no in these engines, but our engines are just like the one on your car, so we can use any oil suitable for car use, and energy saving oils are the best. Synthetic oils have smaller molecules than petroleum base oils and also are stickier so they stick to surfaces a lot better and last more before they begin to loose their lubing capabilities, however they are way more expensive and regular oils now have additives that make them perform as good as synthetics, so if you change your oil often (like you should) the synthetics are just a luxury
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Mar 12, 2006 23:40:06 GMT -5
Thanks, guys.
Hopefully, I'll get my oil changed tomorrow or Tuesday... and hopefully, I won't make as big a mess as last time... hopefully.
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Post by chanito on Mar 13, 2006 21:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Mar 14, 2006 0:38:13 GMT -5
Of course... wait, what?!
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Ruckimike
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Post by Ruckimike on Mar 14, 2006 8:54:39 GMT -5
Porsche sends their cars out with Synthetic in them from the git go. Synthetic has better film strength so with our hi-rev engines, this sounds like the best oil for us. Yah I bought the expensive spread from the Honda Dealer, but Crikey we only use .6 of a quart.
KMP77
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Post by Dandy Dan on Mar 14, 2006 13:04:48 GMT -5
I think Porsche kinda breaks in the engines on a dyno before they sell em which is why they can ship them straight with syth oil.
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Post by Jasper on Mar 14, 2006 19:27:45 GMT -5
BMW comes straight with mobil 1 synthetic and so does honda, and some other peoples told me the engines are broken in too, but thinking about it thats quite alot of engines to break in for companies like Honda and Toyota :S
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Post by chanito on Mar 14, 2006 21:52:55 GMT -5
I do not know about Honda, but both Porsche and BMW do run their engines on a bench (where those engines are put together) and run thru three cycles of diferent loads and engine speeds to be broken in, with SINGLE GRADE oil base motor oil. I posted this already on the FAQ thread. DO NOT SWITCH TO SYNTETHIC UNTIL YOUR ENGINE IS BROKEN IN, that is usually two oil changes on a regularly use Ruckus
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Apr 1, 2006 1:45:51 GMT -5
Well, I finally finished my oil change. Yeah, I know, it took like 2 weeks total. Ha, ha.
Initially I put too much oil in... then, I kinda overfilled it. And couldn't for the life of me think of how to get it out... not until late at night, when I remembered straws, duh. But I was disc golfing the next day, so didn't get around to it... but my folks put together a little something for me... It's part turkey baster, part tubing, great for getting out excess oil. Ha, ha, I'll post a pic in a little bit. So, yesterday, I finally got around to adding a little more oil... and now she's runnin' like a champ.
Oh, and the weather was perfect, tonight. A slight drizzle, not cold, not hot, just great. If I hadn't had my stomach tryin' to fight me, I might have went for a longer ride.
Oh, I was a lot less messy this time. The only problem was where I put my half milk jug to catch the oil, I didn't have it over enough so that when it slowed to a drip it would land in it... but, I was quick with kitty litter, no foul.
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Apr 1, 2006 1:53:25 GMT -5
Here it is, the oil extractor! The bolt in the end of it is to keep excess oil from leaking out while it's not in use.
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Post by rockus on Apr 5, 2006 20:59:29 GMT -5
If I want to do my own oil changes, what shop supplies do I need to buy and how much should I expect to pay?
Thanks.
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Post by chanito on Apr 5, 2006 21:15:59 GMT -5
You will need to get some metric tools, a 14 and a 17 are a must, also some where to store your used oil, a measuring cup (the ones for cooking are great, you need one that will measure up to a liter) and a quart of a good quality motor oil, just follow the instruction and you should do OK ;D ;D
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Post by rockus on Apr 5, 2006 21:50:51 GMT -5
The instructions mentions these new items: new sealing washer for the drain bolt new O-ring for the strainer cap
Do I need to buy these or can I use the old ones? Are there any other supplies like these that I'll need?
Thanks for your help.
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Post by chanito on Apr 5, 2006 22:24:41 GMT -5
Both can be reused, just not overtighten the filter cover or the drain plug ;D ;D
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Post by Dandy Dan on Apr 6, 2006 0:11:13 GMT -5
If you really want to barebones it you can get away with just a 14mm wrench and some oil. The larger 17mm wrench or ratchet is for changing the filter screen which you don't need to do everytime.
You also should consider getting a funnel because you can't pour straight from the jug...it's too tight. A measuring cup is nice but it is one more thing to clean. I usually just keep checking the dip stick but either way works fine.
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bango707
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Post by bango707 on Jun 10, 2006 11:46:26 GMT -5
After how many miles should you change the oil? Im at 270 miles and it seems to be running just fine. The guy at the dealership told me to change it after the second time I fill the tank or around 250 miles.
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jun 10, 2006 12:32:06 GMT -5
You should change it around every 600 miles or 1000 kilometers.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jun 11, 2006 16:26:37 GMT -5
The official spec is 600miles or 1000kms for the first oil change and then every 2500 miles or 4000kms after that but realistically just change it as soon as you feel like it because you want to get the new engine crud out of there and then after that just change it every couple months or every couple thousand miles whatever comes first.
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bango707
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Post by bango707 on Jun 13, 2006 9:30:58 GMT -5
Hey Dan, Did you install an extension kit? or did you just clear out all of the stock crap that clutters up the engine? The Lorax is looking great!
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Post by bango707 on Jun 13, 2006 9:31:39 GMT -5
Sorry wrong thread
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