Aftermarket pistons HELP!!

Awesome! By the time you have it all figured out and ready to go, I should have the dough now that I have a better paying job and all. Glad to see it all coming together.

I know you don't wanna make the kit more complex or expensive but I emailed Total Seal Rings today to see if they have rings that will fit. I asked them how much for 1 set (me!) and how much for 24 sets so we can compare the price to Wiseco's in case it's not that different.

Total Seal Rings got back to me first thing (impressive ;D) but they don't make rings smaller than 2.5" which is about 63mm so nice dice for us.

I think he already mentioned something that you are asking about?

There is no coating on the sleeves... So its a cast sleeve I believe.

maybe I'm not understand what you wrote *shrugs*

This thread's been around so long, I'm starting to forget whats in it.
Mebbe I've been around too long?
On-topic: what about the possibility of shipping out bored heads with the piston inserted? I know you don't have the time Chanito, but if it's possible (without thinking too hard about it) to then attach the crankarm to the existing, preinserted piston before rebuilding to case, it might be an easier conversion for people who dont want to worry about a ring compressor/finding an MC shop to bore the piston.
Then the older heads could be accepted back for a rebate, and offered in the next batch for a cheaper kit w/o a new head.
The work involved kinda kills the idea, but with enough percentage to cover shipping, labour time and extra for Chanito for developing the design, maybe.
Although I dont like bringing profits into this (since I haven't done anything to further the work) it may make more riders ameniable to the idea of doing the engine work and move enough pistons to make minimum.

*edited after response form DD and chanito below:
I only meant that a new case (i always get the terms flipped) could be included (at OEM cost+price to rebore) with a piston inserted (regular cost) for those who wanted, who then could return theirs for forty bucks or whatever. just an idea, as I thought it would be easier and cheaper to have one shop bore ~10 cases

This are the latest news, Wiseco is going thru some reorganizing so the quotes will take longer than expected, however there are some good news, they send the piston to enginering in order to see if they can design the pistons with higher compression and use 93 octane gas for some extra power , also they can coat the piston with some friction reducing coat for even more extra power, however i need to keep the piston cost low, so i will need your help on deciding which piston to get as they all will have to be the same, i.e. you can not have some regular and some high compresion, the 24 will be the same, i will post the options and the cost so we can talk it over and decide on what is the best bang for the buck
Yes wonderslicer, i wanted to establish a core engine program so i will send a whole engine ready to be mount and you will send me yours to be mod for the next guy, however, there was some concern by some people about the quality of the engine and they rather have their own engine mod and put together, so for now i do not know how this is going to work, the only certain thing is we will have a big bore piston with the rings and the wrist pin, plus an engine gasket set design for that particular bore
To clarify, the engine have a cast on sleeve, so it can be bore, the only hard part is finding a shop that can handle small bore engines

You can count me in on the higher compression, Since im already using 93 octane

And im just curious how much extra each of those will be, though im sure that ill probably want the higher comp piston. Any rough cost ideas

I strongly vote for the high compression one with the coating and I think the majority of people are with me. I'd way rather have the high compression one because the big bore kit is already a lot of time, work and money for the bang so it'd be nice to spend a couple extra bucks and make the whole effort more worthwhile. The actual price difference when you consider the cost of the kit plus boring plus all your labour is going to be pretty small for the extra bang. Anyone who is crazy enough to put a big bore piston in their Ruckus is going to want the maximum power possible.

As well, I think you'll have an easier time moving them because you can then say they are 57cc plus high compression plus low friction so you've got 3 selling points instead of one.

I believe Kitaco is starting to develop some overbore pistons for the Ruckus and these pistons are going to be higher compression. If you don't go higher compression that anyone who wants max power down the road will likely order the Kitaco one unless you beat them to it.

Lastly, the high compression seems like a no-brainer because the price difference would be minor (it's just a slightly different shape) and the coating is a bit more arguable but I'd definately rather pay an extra 20$ or so for a premium product that'll get me more power....20 or 30$ for a bit more power is nothing compared to the total cost of the install.

It'll be good to find out more opinions but the only serious reason I can think of for not wanting the high compression piston is if someone is concerned there motor won't be as reliable. I doubt there are very many people who are willing to put up a few 100$ for the big bore piston but won't spend an extra $0.30 per tank on high octane.

It would be nice to know the actual performance difference with the high compression and/or coating. However, performance increasing mods are pretty rare with the Ruckus and if we can score 2 more for an extra 30$ it seems like a no-brainer. A lot of people spend a 145$ for a CDI that probably does a lot less than the a high compression piston and the CDI costs a lot more.