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Post by KazeSim on Oct 7, 2007 18:12:43 GMT -5
anyone have an answer not rooted in their childhood?  |
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Post by varroa on Oct 7, 2007 18:53:52 GMT -5
anyone have an answer not rooted in their childhood? sorry, dude, but your question is wrong already. what do you mean "how many miles can i expect to get out of a ruckus"? does it mean "how many miles will i go before anything breaks?" or "how many miles before engine breaks?" or "how many miles before i will have replaced everything but the frame"? if you would have made an effort and read the whole thread, you could've found dandy dan's comment on how his ruck got 25,000 miles on it.  specify your question, make it a smart question, so you don't get dumb answers.  |
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Post by ace1969 on Oct 8, 2007 0:31:28 GMT -5
proper maintence and it should last damn near forever.
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Post by KazeSim on Oct 8, 2007 11:45:11 GMT -5
anyone have an answer not rooted in their childhood? sorry, dude, but your question is wrong already. what do you mean "how many miles can i expect to get out of a ruckus"? does it mean "how many miles will i go before anything breaks?" or "how many miles before engine breaks?" or "how many miles before i will have replaced everything but the frame"? if you would have made an effort and read the whole thread, you could've found dandy dan's comment on how his ruck got 25,000 miles on it. specify your question, make it a smart question, so you don't get dumb answers. firstly, let's start with a very basic lesson... to suggest a question is "wrong" is laughable and more importantly, trite... taking note of your 'concern' I still find the question perfectly solid without any further explaination/refinement and my job is asking questions... lol... could it have been more specific? certainly... as is the case with most general inquiries... however, let me simply re-word it and perhaps you will be able to make better sense of it for yourself... with proper preventitive maintenance (=taking good care), how many miles could I expect to log (=get out) on (in place of of) my Ruckus? for reference, it is interesting that you mention my not having read the entire thread because I had... lol... and DD having 25,000 logged miles doesn't answer my question... it does offer a bit of insight but a very mild dose to be sure... and lastly, the "dumb answer" was not a product of my input as much as it was a personal choice on the author's part to be vague impo... I really didn't even take much offense to it but I do prefer a more specific knowledge... thank you for your 'concern', it is duly noted and has been appropriately considered... good day... |
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Post by chanito on Oct 8, 2007 16:57:25 GMT -5
 If you have to get a number i will say, with the proper maintenace it will last 100k miles or more 
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Post by varroa on Oct 8, 2007 18:39:18 GMT -5
thanks for a lesson.
sorry, your question is not wrong. but, to your knowledge, there are wrong questions, you just might not notice them; here is an example: "how fast does the sun shine?" or "how much current does an average lamp send into a battery?".
your question, however, is just "rooted into childhood". "how far will a toy car go if i push very-very hard?". there are just too many variables. depending on if you keep it stock or not, on your riding style, on your mechanical skills (applied during "preventative maintenance"), if you are going to wreck your ruckus or not after first x miles, how often you will change your engine oil (sometimes "proper" is not enough), and so on.
the "dumb answer" was, imho, more or less suitable for the question. noone can give you "specific knowledge" about that on this website, and even chanito's answer doesn't have too much grounds. it's just a number. as far as i know, dandy dan's ruck has the most recorded miles, but now it's wrecked.
so.... you can EXPECT (but not necessarily get) 50,000 miles or MORE, or LESS out of 2007 ruckus. here. expect it now.
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Post by KazeSim on Oct 8, 2007 23:25:43 GMT -5
thanks for a lesson. sorry, your question is not wrong. but, to your knowledge, there are wrong questions, you just might not notice them; here is an example: "how fast does the sun shine?" or "how much current does an average lamp send into a battery?". your question, however, is just "rooted into childhood". "how far will a toy car go if i push very-very hard?". there are just too many variables. depending on if you keep it stock or not, on your riding style, on your mechanical skills (applied during "preventative maintenance"), if you are going to wreck your ruckus or not after first x miles, how often you will change your engine oil (sometimes "proper" is not enough), and so on. the "dumb answer" was, imho, more or less suitable for the question. noone can give you "specific knowledge" about that on this website, and even chanito's answer doesn't have too much grounds. it's just a number. as far as i know, dandy dan's ruck has the most recorded miles, but now it's wrecked. so.... you can EXPECT (but not necessarily get) 50,000 miles or MORE, or LESS out of 2007 ruckus. here. expect it now. first, your two sample "wrong" questions fail quite miserably in drawing an accurate and reasonable parallel of equality to my initial question... they barely deserve the several words that I am choosing to waste on them... second, you are the one having problems with variables... a more astute reader would have simply and quite easily inferred a great many things from my first post that you apparently could not: many of your 'concerns' are effectively addressed by my use of the phrase, "I plan on taking very good care of it"... very good>good>adequate you see, so that means frequent oil changes and worn parts replacement (belts, spark plugs, etc.) and most anything else you can think of which even includes paying out the "edit profanity" to take it to the dealership when neccessary to let them take "care" of it as well... naturally your riding style question falls under this umbrella also because "taking very good care" wouldn't mean ragging it now would it? additionally, I'm not sure why it would matter whether you thought the "dumb answer" was suitable or not, it was not suitable to me and I'm the one asking but thanks for sharing... also, you seem to have quite the problem with taking things out of context... let me help you... myself preferring a "more specific knowledge" than "alot" with regard to a Ruckus' average lifetime milage does NOT = requiring "specific knowledge" of the same... it's ok though, I can honestly see how something tricky like that might escape a reader such as yourself... finally yes finally, lol... where you have failed, again I might add, chanito has so definitely and majestically succeeded... apparently, my crazy notion that someone would be able to take that question, apply some very common sense to it and respond appropriately, isn't so crazy after all... P.S. I'll let chanito fight for himself on your call that his number "doesn't have too much grounds[sic]" but I trust someone who has systematically proven on this website to be a human encylopedia of mechanical/technical knowledge and expertise (I believe DD referred to chanito as our "resident wise man" in this very thread)... but then again, he's probably smart enough not to which might well turn out to be the greatest lesson I have learned from all of this  good day... |
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Post by varroa on Oct 9, 2007 2:16:27 GMT -5
so, - how far will a toy car go if i push very-very hard? - 10 feet or more. - yay! that's far! i will make sure i push really hard! this is merely a quote:  |
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Post by KazeSim on Oct 9, 2007 10:28:18 GMT -5
so, - how far will a toy car go if i push very-very hard? - 10 feet or more. - yay! that's far! i will make sure i push really hard! this is merely a quote: roflmao... you have now overwhelmingly proven yourself incapable of accepting reason... instead, you simply stagger forward with your fairly inane lines of convoluted thought... good day... |
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Oct 9, 2007 12:34:03 GMT -5
So has everyone got that out of their system, yet? |
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Post by varroa on Oct 9, 2007 16:57:00 GMT -5
another quote: "You're not just beating a dead horse, you're busting it's balls!!" (c) Todd |
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Post by chanito on Oct 9, 2007 18:35:17 GMT -5
 OK let be civil again, "For your info" Mr Varroa, i did not take that figure out of my rear end I earn my living as a car tech, and supposedly i am a very good one at that , One of my jobs involve analyzing and fixing potential problems on engines, so that is an educated guess, our engines are built like race engines with lots of features that make it an awesome scooter engine, is a 4 cycle water cooled with large enough water jackets to provide adequate coolant circulation to prevent hot spots, magnetic driven leak free water pump, full flow thermostat, roller bearings on the camshaft and crankshaft, throcoid oil pump with enough capacity to circulate the oil in 4 revolutions, cast in cylinder jacket, yes it is built like a race engine because we abuse it like one, also the electric system is state of the art with brush-less alternator/starter, an ECM with a 90 volts CDI driver for the ignition an enough memory capacity to run 4 cylinders instead of one and able to control the power to an incredible efficient fuel pump, a carburetor big enough to supply fuel for an engine twice the size. With love and and care should reach the 100k miles with no problem. :)So please guys stop this, i hope this answer the question and leave everyone happy
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Post by varroa on Oct 9, 2007 22:22:37 GMT -5
sorry if insulted you, chanito. i meant to say "it has not been proven by an actual ruckus that went 100,000 miles. it's just a guess. a very educated one, tho".
i know you are the only actual technician among us.
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Post by timberwolfmadcat on Oct 12, 2007 17:57:27 GMT -5
yes... we we went from WAG to SWAG (Scientific Wild .... Guess)
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Post by thunderstRuck on Oct 12, 2007 20:36:20 GMT -5
Holy Cow. |
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Post by skeeter on Nov 25, 2007 0:31:13 GMT -5
So... What is meant by a long time at high revs? ? I ride mine to work and never let it run over 40MPH; however, I try and keep it as close to 40mph as possible the whole way there. (Its a 30 mile trip each way) Am I over working the engine??? Like I said even on large hills I do not let it run over 40. |
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Post by chanito on Nov 25, 2007 11:29:55 GMT -5
The scooter is design to rev happily to 8850 so you can keep it there all day long, the problem is when you install a CDI and eliminate the rev limiter it can rev past that, and there is where we can get in trouble, as the pump will pump the oil faster than it can get back to the sump and will starve the engine of lubrication, so do not go above 50mph on down hills ( :'(I did once in the mountains of TN, and i am still smiling about it, but is not good for the scooter  )
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Post by skeeter on Nov 25, 2007 17:05:54 GMT -5
Perfect! I just rode from Frederick to Towson Maryland, in all I put a little over 100 miles on the ruck and it was nothing but perfect. Thanks again for the info.
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Post by chanito on Nov 26, 2007 22:34:46 GMT -5
;D Great! keep on scooting  |
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