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Post by peshkabz on Sept 27, 2004 15:13:42 GMT -5
Synthetic or ground juice? Everyone has their justification for what they think is best - I want to get the best. Intervals?! A wise person here has said cut what-ver they recommend in half - make sense for all of you pucker Ruckers??  |
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Post by abe on Oct 2, 2004 2:27:28 GMT -5
In racing apps Mobil 1 is the best, Kendall is second...Says me  You can use Harley Mobil 1 because the Ruckus has no tranny. If you go syn make sure to break in the motor real good. The wear stops when you make the switch. |
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Post by skelly on Jan 27, 2005 19:58:40 GMT -5
Motul makes a scooter specific 10W40.
I think I may try to get some.
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Post by Stone Fury on Feb 12, 2005 22:39:05 GMT -5
I use the Honda GN4 4-stroke motorcycle oil that Honda suggests in the manual. Is there something better or is this kind good enough?
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Post by Vishnuk on Feb 13, 2005 6:11:49 GMT -5
Wear doesn't stop when you switch to synthetic, it just slows way down. You can break in your scoot on synthetic if you want (not recommended), just expect it to take a long time. Your change intervals are longer on synthetic too. My 2 pence says to go Walmart, Canadian Tire, wherever and buy a big gallon jug of mobile1 after your satisfied that your scoot is broken in properly. Your oil-change rate will depend on what kind of riding that you do. If your putting on a hundred miles a day, you can extend the change longer than if you only go for really short trips. Flame On!  |
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Post by izzynormal on Nov 23, 2005 6:23:13 GMT -5
I change oil every 800 miles. My aftermarket bike mechanic/guru says at that frequent rate, any 10-40 weight (non-conserve rating by direction of the factory for the warranty)is fine. I have a friend who worked at an oil lab with an electron microscope. They found the polymers (the lubricating part of the oil)get sheared on a molecular level after 800 miles; but it looks clean to the eye. The price of an oil change is cheap considering it takes only 2 quarts and no filter (just a screen to clean). I, keep receipts for the oil and any maintenance in a big envelope with the original paperwork for the scooter.
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Post by chanito on Nov 23, 2005 8:47:26 GMT -5
:)Keeping receipts is a good idea, it is great at the time to sell the scooter or trade it in, but since i do my own maintenance i have no receipts  |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Nov 23, 2005 10:09:05 GMT -5
I heard about breakdown on the molecular level too. I agree that if you are changing you oil frequently then you don't really benefit by going synthetic because synthetic really just lasts longer from what I've heard and you don't need that if you change it all the time.
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Post by Jasper on Nov 23, 2005 18:45:12 GMT -5
when is "break in real good" abe? i changed mine to castrol 10w-30 (not synthetic) @ 300km to allow more break in  |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Nov 23, 2005 19:14:10 GMT -5
Well abe likely won't answer you because he hasn't been on here since April. I'd say that once you've gone 1000kms you're for sure done. I'd side on the long side. Since you just changed it at 300 you may as well make your next one at 1000 and switch then.
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Post by Jasper on Nov 23, 2005 22:30:22 GMT -5
oh LOL sorry didn't check the dates =.=' i think the next change of oil will be after winter, or the next 300km for me |
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Post by chanito on Nov 24, 2005 3:50:31 GMT -5
:)I should put this under my faq thread, but i will do it later, 600 miles should be a good enought time for a proper break-in, but wait untill 1200 to be safe, i recommend changing the oil every 600 miles as our engines rev very high most of the time, and at least with the old (03-05) pcv system we had some blow-by, so the oil degrade quicker. |
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Nov 26, 2005 20:55:32 GMT -5
And keep in mind, 1000 km is about 620 miles, I thinks.
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Post by cabuco2006 on Jan 20, 2006 11:48:43 GMT -5
i use regular castrol 10w40...but im thinking of going back to honda oil...maybe synthetic...  |
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jan 20, 2006 17:38:47 GMT -5
The Honda stuff is decent but overpriced. A cheap synthetic is a good choice because with a oil change every 1000kms/600 miles pretty much any oil will hold up. If you want the best go Mobil 1 or there's something new out now that's still rare....I think it's made by the mobil 1 guys but it's even better but about 25% more expensive....even mobil 1 is overkill though (but I use it).
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Post by cabuco2006 on Jan 20, 2006 21:05:35 GMT -5
i was talking to the ruckus tech guy at the scooter shop and he said,,that u should be using motorcycle oil.. but ..i like my regular castrol oil..cheasper and very good oil// ;D
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jan 21, 2006 0:38:43 GMT -5
Motorcycle oil isn't any better than modern day oils.
Don't make me hunt down my sources.
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jan 21, 2006 0:38:59 GMT -5
And by sources, I mean a web page where they did a comparison.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jan 21, 2006 1:55:44 GMT -5
Likely the reason they said it was better to use is that a lot of motorcycles have a 'wet clutch' which just mean the clutch is lubricated by the engine oil and thus the oil needs special properties to perform this additional task. Our engines aren't like this so any car oil is fine. If motorcycle was actually better for reasons other than this than car oil manufacturers would have quickly stolen the secret.
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Post by chanito on Jan 24, 2006 0:33:40 GMT -5
If motorcycle was actually better for reasons other than this than car oil manufacturers would have quickly stolen the secret. Well said DD, i actually use regular motor oil as i change my oil every 600 miles (1000 kilometers) so syntethic would be overkill |
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