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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jun 7, 2007 11:37:55 GMT -5
Yeah, a quart is almost as much as a litre, just not quite.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jun 7, 2007 11:59:26 GMT -5
Nice to hear you got it.....they probably kept it at 0.6qt to give you a nice round number. 0.6L actually equals 0.634 qts. The actual amount you drain does vary. If you rebuild the engine (ie. get 100% of it out) then it requires 0.7L so you could probably get 0.65L out if you really tipped it over and drained it well.
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Post by Workstead on Jul 18, 2007 9:08:27 GMT -5
The book says to replace the washer under the oil pan plug and the o-ring under the filter screen.
Is this a CYA direction from the manufacturer or do they really need to be replaced?
Thanks,
Clem
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jul 18, 2007 10:14:10 GMT -5
Yeah, when you get a new washer, it's gonna look smaller, but when it's torqued on, it'll crush it into place.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jul 18, 2007 11:01:53 GMT -5
To be honest, I have never replaced a crush washer or the 0 ring and I've done probably a dozen oil changes on one. These crush washers are there to help seal the oil in and to squash if you get carried away with overtorquing the bolt so you don't damage the threads. As long as you torque the bolt properly this crush washer should last a long time and eventually, I imagine it wouldn't seal as well so if you notice a drip or two coming from the drain bolt then you need a new one. With that said, a new crush washer is cheap (like $1) and a good idea...I've just always been too lazy to go pick a new one up.
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Post by Workstead on Jul 18, 2007 12:37:32 GMT -5
Dan, Makes sense. I'll be careful and if I damage one I might get a new one. My dealer is not conveniently located and is more interested in new machine sales and not parts sales. I tried to get a key from him and it was going to cost about $28. $8 for the blank and $20 to cut it. I went to a lock and key place and got one for $1.75. Clem To be honest, I have never replaced a crush washer or the 0 ring and I've done probably a dozen oil changes on one. These crush washers are there to help seal the oil in and to squash if you get carried away with overtorquing the bolt so you don't damage the threads. As long as you torque the bolt properly this crush washer should last a long time and eventually, I imagine it wouldn't seal as well so if you notice a drip or two coming from the drain bolt then you need a new one. With that said, a new crush washer is cheap (like $1) and a good idea...I've just always been too lazy to go pick a new one up.
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jul 18, 2007 13:03:28 GMT -5
I'd say replace the washer every other oil change, that's what I usually do.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jul 18, 2007 14:23:09 GMT -5
It's a good idea to just get a stack of em and keep them in your toolbox. I've been meaning to do that. I don't recommend not changing them...just saying that I've gotten away with it. If you do re-use them over and over the potential negative consequences are:
1) It won't seal anymore so you start dripping oil...if you pay attention to your Ruckus by either visually inspecting it occasionally or checking the dipstick then there's really no way you're going to lose a significant amount of oil 1 drip at a time without noticing it but if you're the oblivous type then maybe...
2) Over time you may crush the washer thinner and thinner until eventually it can't crush anymore so if you over torque the drain bolt you might strip the case threads whereas if you had used a new washer it may have saved you. This really shouldn't be an issue if you use a torque wrench but if you're the rammy type then maybe...
As for that oil screen O-ring...I think Honda just says to replace it to cover their butts...I really see no reason why this O-ring shouldn't last a very long time. I't's not like it gets damaged when you check the oil screen.
With both of these parts, if you don't replace them do so at your own risk. I'm just explaining the potential consequences so you have make an informed choice.
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Jul 18, 2007 23:12:31 GMT -5
It's time to change my oil again, I think I'm gonna order about six of the washers... think that'll last me a while.
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Post by Blackruk on Jul 19, 2007 8:23:00 GMT -5
I have a confession to make - when I went to change the oil in my ruk for the first time, the oil drain bolt didn't have a washer. So, needless to say, I didn't put one back on.
Its been two years since then and I still haven't used a washer on the bolt when I change the oil. No problems yet.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jul 19, 2007 10:47:53 GMT -5
Are you sure you don't have a washer? Sometimes it gets stuck right against the head of the bolt and it's the same diameter so you can hardly tell it's there. Look closely at the head of your bolt and see it's pressed right against it.
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Post by jlwatson on Mar 26, 2008 19:53:43 GMT -5
this helped my moped run much smoother
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Post by Dandy Dan on Mar 30, 2008 22:16:15 GMT -5
Whoa! Easy on the 'M****' word!
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jd
n00b Ruckster
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Post by jd on Apr 7, 2008 20:34:33 GMT -5
D*mn. I just did the first change on my new 07. the dealer had between 750-780 ml in there. I though maybe i was doing something wrong. I put 600 in there, a little bit over. rode and checked it. It's about perfect. Maybe a little high. It was reading 1-2 diamonds below full (if that makes any sence) on the dipstick.
Question: Do you think any damage was done by having that much oil in there for 50miles?
Alos, i noticed that some sites have oil change cups for sale, for 5 or six bucks. if you go to your local napa, whatever that sells automotive paint suplies. You can get a paint mixing can, that has super easy to read ML on the side, for 50c-$1.00. You can use them quite a bit too.
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Post by Kami no Chiizu on Apr 7, 2008 21:16:28 GMT -5
I don't think overfilling it will cause too much damage unless it was serious long term. I just try to make sure the oil's about halfway up the hash-marks.
and I use a measuring cup for my oil changes. Just picked one up at Wally. Easy enough.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Apr 9, 2008 22:23:18 GMT -5
The main problem with overfilling the oil is if the piston hits the oil which whips it into a froth and decreases its lubricating properties (and it adds resistance to your engine so you're a bit slower).
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Post by seyaat420 on Jun 15, 2008 18:38:17 GMT -5
???Ok I see the torch part but, what is the exact size of the socket, for removeing the cap, to get to the screen. I have been useing an ajustable wrench and I wants to strip it. So what is the exact size so I can go buy just the single socket. And yea I useally use compressed air to clean my screen. or is you have a air compressure, this works aswell
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Post by chanito on Jun 15, 2008 19:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by seyaat420 on Jun 15, 2008 19:51:59 GMT -5
thanks ;D
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Post by seyaat420 on Jun 15, 2008 21:26:05 GMT -5
ok now how much is it going to be at the honda place to take the cap off, if its stripped, cause on of my bikes has a striped cap and I cant get it off. I must have tightened it to mutch, the last time. Darn it. any suggestions?
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