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Post by Dandy Dan on Mar 13, 2006 0:39:45 GMT -5
I'll whip up 2 hopefully next week when I get the time and if they sell then I'll make a couple more. I'll post pics etc. when I've got them done.
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Post by jondenver on Mar 14, 2006 0:26:58 GMT -5
Do you think I should sell variator tools? I could make some beefy ones for about 6-7$ and sell them for say 10$ plus shipping. It wouldn't really be a get rich quick scheme but I might help a few people out. YES!!
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Post by Dandy Dan on Mar 14, 2006 13:05:50 GMT -5
Okay I'll make some on Thursday. I'll post pics then.
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Post by chanito on Mar 14, 2006 21:22:49 GMT -5
Maybe i can sell them in chanito motor
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Post by loopyeddie on Mar 26, 2006 12:56:33 GMT -5
You can put me on the list of someone who will surely purchase one of your variator tools, DD!
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Post by Dandy Dan on Mar 26, 2006 16:47:15 GMT -5
Okay I've been really busy this past week but I should be able to make a bunch on Tuesday. I think I can get all the parts for 6-8$ and then sell them for 10$ plus shipping but if the parts are a bit more I might need to charge 15$. My variator tool is super beefy because I had one before that I made and I ended up bending the handle reefing on something so my new design had a nice long (16 inch roughly) handle that gives you tons of leverage so it's almost effortless and it's super strong.
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Post by Variator Hold Tool on Mar 26, 2006 22:16:04 GMT -5
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Post by smoove314 on Jun 11, 2006 21:39:11 GMT -5
I just installed this kit today. Thanks for info made the job a breeze. Did you fell that the polini spacer was a little tight fitting? :
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Post by chanito on Jun 11, 2006 21:50:09 GMT -5
Congrats on the install, please post comments ;D
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Post by the wonder on Jun 12, 2006 12:44:30 GMT -5
Hi, My KITACO Variator came with a tube of what I assume to be lube. Can anyone let me know where exactly I have to lube? A very small diagram in Japanese showed limited info. It looked like lubing the rollers and spacers were to be done. If this is true, what parts of the roller weight and spacer, need attention. Thanks alot
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jun 12, 2006 12:57:57 GMT -5
As tempting as it is, you don't need to use lube. The Ruckus uses a 'dry clutch' and we don't need anything. You can put some a wee little on the spacer (cylinder shaped piece about 16mm long) where it goes into the inner ramp piece but put very little if any on because if the lube gets out on the ramps, drive belt or roller weights it'll cause slippage and odd performance and wear. Lube makes all the belt dust stick and things get gummed up faster. The Kitaco variators sometimes comes with lube but the the Daytona, Malossi and Polini ones don't. Actually, I don't think my Kitaco one did either. Anyways, don't use or just put a wee little bit on where the metal on metal slides.
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Post by Dano1 on Jun 12, 2006 18:51:41 GMT -5
Great technical forum! Are there any oil, grease or special lube requirements during the variator installation? Soon to be more than a guest.
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Post by The wonder on Jun 12, 2006 19:40:16 GMT -5
Thanks Dan ;D The only gummy things I like are bears
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Post by Not Worthy on Jun 15, 2006 11:10:35 GMT -5
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Post by jedisabre7 on Jun 15, 2006 11:29:48 GMT -5
What are the symptoms??? Any lack of performance or missing features??
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jun 15, 2006 12:19:19 GMT -5
You should be okay. What you need to do is disassemble your variator which means working the kickstarter washer and the outer finned plate off of the shaft which will likely be difficult but possible. Just use some lube and keep wiggling things. Also, you can pry it a bit but if you do this it's best to pry from 2 sides at once to keep things even. Once you've got it apart you'll need to smooth out the threads where they are damaged which you can do with a flat bladed screwdriver, a knife or something like that. Get it good enough that the outer finned plate will slide on fairly easily. The threads shouldn't be damaged under where this part rests so even with the worst case scenario where the last 1/4" of threads are totally schmucked all that means is that your kickstarter won't grab which renders it useless. This is pretty much the worst than can happen because I'm assuming you put things together tightly so the outer plate didn't rock/rattle and damage the threads underneath it. Realistically, once you get those threads cleaned up everything should work fine as long as you don't do it again.
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jun 15, 2006 12:25:03 GMT -5
Also, I'm selling variator tools now in case you're reading this thread and not sure. They are $15 plus $8 shipping which I think is quite reasonable considering the materials cost me almost $9 and then I spend probably 45min/tool hacksawing the metal and bolts, drilling out the holes for the bolts, assembling it and dipping the handle in the liquid rubber coating. Also the shipping costs me $7.90 plus almost $2 for the packaging plus I lose $1 in paypal fees so I really only come out ahead about $4 for my labour.
You can adjust the jaw width and the pin length of these tools to suit if you want to use it for a different scooter or you just think it works better. This tool also works on your rear clutch and flywheel. I'll post pics soon.
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Post by timberwolfmadcat on Jun 15, 2006 14:36:24 GMT -5
Also, I'm selling variator tools now in case you're reading this thread and not sure. They are $15 plus $8 shipping which I think is quite reasonable considering the materials cost me almost $9 and then I spend probably 45min/tool hacksawing the metal and bolts, drilling out the holes for the bolts, assembling it and dipping the handle in the liquid rubber coating. Also the shipping costs me $7.90 plus almost $2 for the packaging plus I lose $1 in paypal fees so I really only come out ahead about $4 for my labour. You can adjust the jaw width and the pin length of these tools to suit if you want to use it for a different scooter or you just think it works better. This tool also works on your rear clutch and flywheel. I'll post pics soon. And ill vouch that these are high quality pieces of art they work wicked awesome!!
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Post by Dandy Dan on Jun 15, 2006 15:15:05 GMT -5
Thanks Timber ;D
The only weakness that I'm aware of is that if the nut holding the main pivot tight comes loose (and it shouldn't because I used a $0.50 lock nut plus washers so you can adjust the jaws and not loosen it) then there's slop/flex in the tool which can lead to bending the jaws if you use it on a stubborn bolt because then the jaws can twist so they're slightly sideways then possibly bend. I'm sure that sounds confusing but as long as the main pivot is kept snug there should be no worries.
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Post by 1ofnone on Jun 19, 2006 16:30:36 GMT -5
;D Timber, Thanks for helping me with the Kitaco variator Mod... What's improved is the accel off the line, uphill climb and holy cats the downhill speed you said would improve (70kms). I may as well try the 6.5 gm rollers. do you have 6 16mm's in that weight? I lose top end so i believe the New CDI will help open that end up. Then the Tach attack...
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